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Shakespeare's Monkeys

Infinite Monkeys. Infinite Typewriters.

The personal space of Alcuin of York

Two sections: 1) My personal submissions. 2) Favorite poems, poets, and poetry-writing theory.
My interest is in poetry. I would like others to give feedback on my writes, but also I like discussing various professional poets' works and various aspects of their quality.

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on Apr. 16 2007

Why is poetry important (or not)?

09:17 pm

Poetry is little valued economically, but is it beneficial to society? If so, in what ways, and to what extent?
I was asked this question recently. My answer surprised the host (of a public-service TV program). I stated that the general trend of all the arts within a culture predict changes that will occur in the cultural ethos. I used the example of German art between 1870 and WWI. Novels took on dark colors, as in "The Trial" (1924)by Kafka (actually Austrian) with the heroes stuck in situations both absurd and unchangeable. Painting tended to depict suffering - as in Max Beckmann's works - and the negative views of urban life. These seem to me to have presaged the pit into which Germany spiraled in the early 20th-century. I believe all artists express something within the unconscious, and those in the culture who share those unconscious feelings and ideas accept that art - are attracted to it because it's background ideas match their own. The poet's vehicle is the word. Unlike music, the writer's words are sufficiently explicit to give us a less diluted view of the unconscious. The musician must mix music & lyrics, and the music is open to wider interpretations of meaning. The movie-maker must mix music, words, pictures and plot - again less pure than a poem, and therefore open to more interpretations of their meaning as omens. Anyone's thoughts, comments, etc. welcome. Alcuin

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on Apr. 27 2007

Bad Poetry?

02:10 am

Is there such a thing as bad poetry, and how do we determine when such exists?
On another poetry site I saw a statement on the main page: "There are no bad poems, only different kinds of poetry."
I wonder how such a statement might appear regarding other areas of human culture:
There are no bad drivers, only different kinds.
There are no bad foods, only different kinds.
There are no bad cooks, just different kinds of cuisine.
There are no bad leaders, just different styles of leadership.
There is no bad sex...
(well, I guess there are exceptions.)
Seriously, in the real world of art or logic, if we cannot separate out a class called "bad", then we have no comparison to identify a class called "good". If there is no bad poetry, it seems to me there is no good poetry.
Of course there IS bad poetry - lot's of it, too. I've seen it, read it, heard it. If the category of "quality" doesn't exist, then why should any poet work hard at improving their work, given that it can never achieve the status of "good" or "bad"? The idea of improvement itself implies a progression to "good"; hence, if there is no such category as "good" and "bad", then improvement would seem to be precluded.
Alcuin

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on Jan. 29

How much of art comes from the artist?

11:24 pm

I had an online conversation with someone over a poem that had been computer-generated. I said I felt it wasn't art, and she responded with,

"I think the lesson here is that art is as much the product of the recipient as of the artist. It's a conversation between intent and reality, on the active end, and between reality and perception, on the passive side. So there's not really any such thing as counterfeit vs. real art, only deliberate vs. accidental. The complication comes from assuming that art is strictly a vehicle for communication between people, which simply isn't true. While art excels in this capacity, it's a bit like saying that water's purpose is to quench thirst. It's an arbitrary and inaccurate limitation that overlooks other functions."
I disagreed and responded with,

"I read your remarks... I thought (and still think) they are very important because the ideas you expressed have so thoroughly infected our society. Despite my gut understanding that your remarks were in error, I did not immediately respond because I had not sufficiently thought about the subject to be able to define that error.

"I find it odd that you identify art as "a conversation" but then assert it's not a communication between people. What's the point of conversing if you're not communicating? Certainly we all know of the case of ‘he says X, she hears Y", but this hardly augurs a well for the relationship. In fact, it's the basis for the defense that when she said "No!", she really meant "Yes!".

"I agree that water is not strictly for quencing thirst. It also can be used to bathe, to water the garden, or for sailing a boat. However, if I get a clean drinking glass and fill it with clean water from the fridge, it is hardly appropriate for you to try to bathe with it. Similarly, if I fill the bathtub and suds it up, would you drink it or water the garden with it? We go to the trouble of configuring and placing the water in particular ways because we intend particular purposes. Similarly, good poets go to a great deal of trouble to configure words for a particular effect. If the reader does not understand the intent, then the poet has failed or the reader has failed, or both. This is not to say that the poet can't have more than one thing in mind for the writing, nor that the reader can't get more than one thing from the writing; but there has to be some overlap, or no conversation has taken place. I accept that if he says XY and she hears YZ, conversation has been successful. However, if he says XY and she hears XY, or even XYZ, then the poem has been completely effective as a conversation.

"As for the perceptual part, we might say that if you are walking along and see a pile of boulders arranged by natural forces, they might seem beautiful to you; they might even remind you of some past event in your life, or trigger a connection concerning a universal truth, even a profound one. Does that make the pile of boulders art? I think not, because, leaving aside religious conjecture, they were not arranged there with any conscious intent. That is, there was no artist involved the creation of the pile. If the viewer of the rocks, or the reader of a poem. gets more from their perception than a conscious mind intended, so much the better. I think everyone should find as much beauty and significance in all their experiences, whether nature or the art of writing, painting, sculpture, etc. Perhaps that makes the viewer a ‘perceptual' artist. However, we have no way to know that such an artist exists until they express that art - through their writing, painting, or some other form of...yes, ‘artistic creation'. In short, art must be at least - and usually more - the creation of the artist than of the recipient. Your distinction between deliberate art and accidental art is false."

I subject you to this conversation because I'd like your opinions too. I think its an important subject for artists in this era.

Alcuin

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on Aug. 27 2007

Dreams - A Collection

03:57 pm

Success

It's said ‘success comes not to the faint of heart'.
Indeed, it calls on those whose practiced arts
are feigning smarts and quick-time verbal darts
and teethy smiles,
disarming wiles
and deals in secret swung
and genuflections sung
to those with purse well-hung.


Career

Men mingle, paired or single, round a room,
propelled by pasted smiles - to orbit whom?
They seek the sun for warmth - return to womb,
or hope in turn
themselves to burn.
Bizarre, this solar system - gaseous giants
spin nearest Sol, yet barely move - pretense                      
of proper orbit, faking comet's brilliance.


Money

Discovered destitution disappoints.
Impaled by chance on economic points,
your snazzy home or sporty car disjoints.
Perhaps someday
you'll make your way
to sunny Shangri-la -
like salmon you once saw,
regain U-to-pi-a.


Sex

Nocturnal dreams come either dry or wet;
diurnal thoughts envision perfect pet -
another's mate or office bait - and yet
when heart impels
to ring their bells
your partner will suffice.
Imagined bods entice -
and make you do it twice.


Sleepless Dreams

I've seen the harried man whose nights were tossed
by hopes that morphed to monsters, sourly sauced
by thoughts his aspirations might be lost:
What never was
and never does
might never do or be -
from nothing gained, you see,
regards himself in poverty.


Dreamless Sleep

I've seen spent men with minds devoid of dreams -
who lost the gleam that lit their morning schemes;
or never gazed at stars or mused extremes;
the young heart idled
from passions bridled -
complacent sauntering cow;
compliant mule at plow,
now stuck in the ruts of his brow.

Alcuin of York

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on June 5 2007

The case against Free-Market values

04:50 pm

The real problem with our modern free-market mentality is that marketing values have supplanted the other values.
The real problem with our modern free-market mentality is that marketing values have supplanted the other values.
Let me make clear that I am not arguing against the free-market as an economic model – there is no better way to invent, produce, distribute and buy widgets (provided there are sufficient regulations to make such a system work).
What has happened is that free-market values – business values, really – have displaced other values. Love books? Why then open a bookstore! Oops! That won’t work because you’ll lose money competing with corporations who own bookstores for the love of money, not books. Your bookstore will become an expensive hobby.
Want to write a book? You can be the greatest author since Shakespeare and not get published because you’re unknown, and the marketing economics of books are too expensive for the publisher to take chances. Small publishers are a possibility, but you will never make the money you deserve, while some hack who has most of her texts ghost-written is reaping millions.
Want to pass a bill allowing family leave? Politicians who were harping on “family values” will vote against it because it conflicts with business interests.
Want to make us energy-independent and reduce emissions? The corn industry will push through a corn-ethanol bill, even though prairie grass is more efficient as an ethanol source. However, there is no money to be made in prairie grass, since it grows free, and the pesticide industry would be out of luck because the grass doesn’t need it.
Want to put seat belts in cars? No problem. Just fight the auto industry for a decade, and you’ll get it done.

In summary, the constant arguments over the free market often – no, usually ignore the fact that society has other values that should take precedence over the market. The market is supposed to serve the economy. However the economy is not the primary purpose of a society. It is a means of ensuring that society prospers so it can institute and sustain and enhance its other values – whether they are educational, religious, political, etc. I believe we have drifted into the mistake of thinking of the free-market and its values as an end rather than a means, as our cultural ethos rather than an adjunct to that ethos.
Alcuin of York

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on Aug. 8 2007

An Open Letter to Right Wingers

04:13 pm

Response to reactions to Leanne's write

I find incredible the repetition of the blindness and irrationality that is currently manifesting itself in this country. To you who say that foreigners should not criticize the US because they don't understand, let me ask if you think you shouldn't comment or criticize other nations. After all, that would follow logically. People in most other nations above the third world know more about us than most American know about them. Heck, most Americans can't even locate another country on a map, and some can't even find the continents.

I would remind you of the words in the Declaration of Independence: "...a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires..." It was one of Jefferson's (and other founding fathers) reasons for writing the document. Perhaps you don't think you can learn from them something about proper American values, but I disagree. The opinions of foreign nations were important to them. Today, with our growing dependence on foreign nations for our materiel, energy, money and brainpower, we must be even more sensitive to the opinions of mankind. I might also remind you that the person whose writing rights you criticized is a citizen of one of the "Coalition of the Willing". That gives her the right to criticize her government's actions, and by extension, its allies.

When I said at the beginning "repetition of the blindness and irrationality", I was referring to history. We wronged the American Indians, then later felt bad and said we wouldn't make that mistake again. We interred the Japanese-Americans in WWII, and later said we wouldn't do that again. We gave way to hysteria and meanness during the McCarthy era, then said it was a mistake and we wouldn't do it again. We yelled and screamed about dominoes during the Vietnam War; today we trade with them and say we won't do that again. And now we're in Iraq, doing it again.

One of the other things our founding fathers said was that the greatest threat to liberty was war. Yes, they actually said it. It was the main reason behind Washington's (George, not the capitol) warning to avoid foreign entanglements. It was the reason most of the founding fathers wanted us to NOT have a large standing army. For several years of the new republic, we did not even possess a navy. One other thing they recognized is that democracy could not exist without certain preconditions. One was the condition of being informed about current events. This was necessary for the people to make good choices, and is the primary reason behind both the First Amendment and their push for universal education. Most Americans are ridiculously uninformed - more than half STILL believe WMD's were found in Iraq following our latest invasion; they are unaware that we put Saddam's party in power in the 1970's; and they have never read a book by Chalmers Johnson or any other writer (there are literally dozens) who reveal our sordid past. They still think we're number one in the world in things like education, health care, per-capita income, life expectancy, etc. In short, their worldview is frozen in the 1950's.

The other precondition for democracy is dissent. Where there is no dissent there is no democracy, but right-wingers tend to confuse dissent with disloyalty. Some think that dissent should not be aired during wartime. We found the German people guilty for remaining silent during wartime, and rightly so. To wait to speak up until after evil has already wreaked its damage is immoral.

The fact is that this country could withstand a 9/11 event every single year, and never fall. Our population grows annually by a hundred times the loss of life we endured on that day, and the economy grows by twenty times. But we cannot endure if our liberties are lost even once. They have been encroached upon by both Clinton and Bush to an extent that citizens of my parents' generation would not have tolerated for two seconds. But that was when Americans were braver, better educated, and more civic-minded. If I had to guess, I would give the American Empire less than 20 years before it - like most empires - wears itself out.

Alcuin of York

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on Aug. 6 2007

Warp

03:58 pm

FYI: 'Mondo'=zen technique, not modern slang.

Bird knows flap,
wings know warp,
          one pulls,
                    two twist and wave...
                              rise...rise......rise.

People think,
but
poets flap,
waving mind within unnameable ether -
          eddys of memory's breath
          and zephyring blood -
till psyche warps and woofs,
          weaves above weir
                    twists beyond time
                              looks beyond light
                                        connects beyond dots

soul leaps aloft
Rise! Rise! Rise!
mondo, mondo, mondo
makes mundane
drop
          away...
                    poet floats
                              and poetry flows

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on Jul. 11 2007

Lamentations On a Free Market

03:18 pm

Chapter 5 of 6 - Scarcity

Chapter V

And behold, Pharaoh dreamt of seven fatted cows,
followed by seven lean cows,
and Joseph prophesied seven years of plenty
followed by seven years of scarcity.
And Pharaoh decreed that grain be set aside
throughout the land during the time of plenty,
and rationed out during the time of famine.
Yet the people followed not Pharaoh,
but the golden jackass instead, saying,
"That would be a tax for the fat years.
It would be to tax fat!
It would be welfare for the lean years.
It would be regulation.
These are all sins
against the free market
we worship unto death;
and on whose altar we sacrifice the poor."

And the Lord looked down at the people's folly
and waxed wroth;
and unto them He said,
"I will greatly multiply your sorrows and afflictions;
In sorrow shall the many scrape by,
and your brethren of other lands will ridicule thee,
and your progeny will curse thee
for jacking up the realm,
for jacking their wealth,
for ignoring the weal."

"For I say unto you, your golden jackass is lame
when the fruits of your labors be scarce.
For the sons of men will bear any burden
for the necessaries of life.
Yea, when the cup runneth not over,
woe to the sons of Adam Smith,
for the Hidden Hand then becometh a fist."

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on Jul. 10 2007

Lamentations on a Free Market

02:57 pm

Chapter 4 - Selfishness (The chorus is sung to the tune of "My Favorite Things")
 

Chapter IV

Then said the Lord unto me,
"Woe unto the land,
for the most of the host shall be brought low,
and the few who rise shall ignore the rest.
Yea, though gatherers of gold brag their charity,
they battle decrees that would lessen their spoils
to aid the land."
(chorus)           Seat belts and safety,
                        and health care solutions
                        emission restrictions
                        to stop some pollutions
                        food inspections
                        small erections
                        these are a few of their feared Fabian things
CEO's in their suits and suites -
they toil not, but Oh, how they spin!
Yet they are provided for ­-
by their friends on compensation committees.
Yea, they preach to the multitudes:
"Blessed are the poor SOBs,
for they work for us;
Blessed are the meek,
for they won't unionize;
Blessed are the multi-taskers,
for they lack time to reflect.
Ye are the salt of the earth,
whom we throw over our shoulders for good luck."

And the Lord spake
"Gather those who are sinless,
who resent not rendering tribute to the land
that maketh their crops flourish.
Go ye forth and a build a paradise
that all may rejoice and prosper throughout the realm."

But the lawgivers' ears were stopped, stuffed
with green wads,
given by those who fear sharing.
Kings heard not the cries of the poor and afflicted.
Yea, golden trumpets drowned out the needs
of the many,
and laws were made to give alms to the rich.

Alcuin of York

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on Jul. 12 2007

Lamentations On a Free Market

03:43 pm

Chapter 6 of 6 - Revelation
 

Chapter VI

The prophet saith,
"Hear ye, O New Jerusalem!
You have fallen low,
neither set above other nations by your fine cars and
clothes,
nor raised to virtue by your castles.
For these have weighed you down
made you a drayhorse without a master.
Remember ye that God did not create the world to increase His profit."

And I heard seven boomboxes sound,
and the heavens opened and a mighty voice said,
"You have lost your way!"
And I saw heaven opened, and behold,
a great red horse
bearing soldiers on top,
and munitions jobs behind;
and the people sleepmarched toward the abyss.
And I saw heaven opened, and behold,
a white horse
bearing the clean slate of ignorance on top
and uncivil strife behind;
and the people scowled and walked amiss toward the abyss
And I saw heaven opened, and behold,
a green horse
bearing conceited CEO's on top,
and a flag with stars behind;
and the people saluted as they multi-tasked toward the abyss.
And I saw heaven opened, and behold,
an elephant
bearing a clown on top,
and radios and flat-screens behind,
and the people laughed their way to the abyss.

And there was a great light,
and I saw a golden chariot fringed with fire
arc across the sky and pass close by -
and it was empty.
And the Lord spake,
"You have lost your way,
and there ain't no X-Men!"

Alcuin of York

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